Penalizare pentru prea mult SEO

[Cata.]

@slobodan
Sigur ca google e o companie privata si poate face ce vrea!
Eu doar scot in evidenta ca o astfel de decizie ar insemna un sfarsit pentru ceea ce sustine google ca e: "un motor de cautare impartial si relevant"

N-ai cum sa-ti doresti dupa atatia ani sa devi top66, mai ales daca te numesti google!

[100R]

Dar cu ce e imparial, aduce un plus calitatii rezultatelor, teoretic, posibilitatea mamicilor, bunicilor care nu au un site, sa-si dea cu parerea, actualul model e un motor e mult mai impartial cum spui tu, pentru ca e un motor al webmasterilor (ca sa urci in cautari ai nevoie de linkuri iar ca sa pui un link catre o pagina care iti place trebuie ca tu sa ai o pagina la randul tau) exceptand forumurile. +1 face ca toti, mai ales vizitatorii care nu au bloguri, siteuri dar care sunt targetul tau, sa spuna, "siteul asta e bun, imi place". Dimpotriva daca n-o sa pui +1 inseamna ca face discriminare fata de cei ce nu au bloguri. Eu doar presupun ca asta va fi noul algorith backlink/+1 ca principal element.

[100R]

Se pare ca noul val de penalizari isi face simtita prezenta, penalizarile de aprilie: Google April 2012 Update Underway? Overly SEO Or Something Else? sau http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/4435785.htm

[Alex Dumitru]

In ultima saptamana am avut cresteri la toate site-urile cat nu am mai avut de mult timp. Am avut cresteri de 10 - 30% la siteuri mari, cu continut de calitate, vechime si multe linkuri. Dar partea amuzanta deabia acum incepe:
Acum ~1 an am facut niste teste SEO cu site-uri mega-optimizate on-site, continut prost sau deloc, linkuri putine si din surse indoielnice. La 3 luni dupa ce le-am facut insumau maxim 50 vizite / zi. La primul update Panda au inceput sa creasca, la urmatorul la fel si tot asa. Dupa ultimul update Panda crecusera destul de mult fara vreo implicare din partea mea. Dar acum, la update-ul din aprilie au crescut unele si de 10 ori, iar traficul pare sa se mentina. Nu stiu ce face Google, dar vad tot mai multe site-uri proaste sa se bucure de update-uri, decat cele bune.

[Madison]

defineste site bun Alex
daca site-ul prost e urat dar curat, si cel bun e frumos dar "murdar" (tactici neagreate) sau incluse in algoritm, pica automat, si cele naspa le iau locul.
Vad ca G e pus pe schimbari si nu se uita pe cine loveste si pare sa nici nu-i pese. Deja pe .com a inceput iar un val de schimbari pe primele pagini, cei din linkurile puse de @100R au simtit bine. Si cei de pe BHW au postat tristi efectele. Deci peste vreo 2 saptamani si la noi ?

[100R]

Penalizand siteuri care au linkuri suspecte dar bune in continut in detrimentul unor siteuri cu profil al backlinkurilor curat, white hat dar continut slab, uneori neupdatat de luni, ani, duce la o scadere generala a continutului pe care Google il afiseaza. Reamintim cazul ejocuri.ro, site bun, cine ia locul, siteuri cu navigatie groaznica, continut slab etc
Backlinkurile de mult nu mai reprezinta masura calitatii unui site, doar un mijloc de a obtine o pozitie buna si trafic. In prezent oamenii de seo au invins, Google nu mai afiseaza ce vrea el, afiseaza ce vor oamenii de seo.

[Cata.]

Eu am altfel de filosofie... Daca un site este bun si este intr-adevar util asa cum a dat exemplu 100R, dar care are ceva suspect privind backlinkurile. Acel site nu trebuie penalizat, atat timp cat ai un algoritm eficient poti pur si simplu sa ignori excesul de seo pe care il face acel site. Daca continutul si calitatea sunt factorul cel mai important, atunci asa sa fie. Astfel de pedepse precum a primit ejocuri si o multime de alte site-uri care intr-adevar aduceau ceva util, slabesc relevanta si calitatea unui motor de cautare.

[tzaphoo]

Se pare ca Google a facut o greseala pe care,culmea,si-au asumat-o.
Dropped In Rankings? Google's Mistake Over Parked Domains Might Be To Blame

[Krumel]

A close look at what over optimization really is

1. Keyword/phrase over usage. Known by seo experts as keyword stuffing. This is also the most commong form of over optimization and also the easiest to recover from. When you are trying to rank for a specific phrase, you want google to find that term. Many webmasters will do this by placing the same term in the page title, url's, meta tags, body text, anchor text, header tags etc etc. It is important NOT to do this. Google will know what the subject of your site is without having to repeat the same phrase over and over. That just gives a poor user experience. Not only that, google will know you're trying to game the system. You could possibly overcome this by strong content and a good backlink profile, but it will likely still hold you back in some way or another.

2. Redirects. I seen a major competitor just lose its number 1 position after holding it steady for 3 years. This site was not only number 1 for this industry, but its also one of the top 500 most popular websites in the USA. It is a huge huge brand and it has just dropped to position #7 after being #1 for 3 years. One thing I noticed about them is they redirect several domains to their main site and they have bought out competitors over the years and just redirected them to their main site. Be careful not to redirect too many sites to your main business, and if you do, make sure to follow recommended procedure as offered by google.

3. Same/similar anchor in back links. This is an oldy but a goody. The best backlink profile is a well rounded, diverse and natural looking profile that has links coming from many types of venues. If all of your links come from blogs, that looks pretty artificial, what are the odds that all of the sites linking to you all happen to be blogs? Top that off with if these blogs link to lots of other unrelated sites, it wont take google's algo too long to detect that. Aggressive reciprocal links can hurt you as well.

4. Same Niche same server - This one I truly believe in, or it could be me just being paranoid. I always believed that having 2 websites on the same server in the same or similar industries will cause 1 or both of them to be punished. For this reason, I leave no trail for google to connect any 2 of my sites together unless they are completely unrelated. I make sure to have different whois info, I never use GA, adsense or any other means for google to connect two similar sites. I have no concrete proof of this one, but its something I feel strongly about.

5. Doorway/thin affiliate - Is the main goal of your site to get people to another site? Then google may just decide to drop your site and favor the source site since that would provide a better user experience. Counter this by offering something truly unique.

6. Link schemes/cheap backlink packages - Quite simply, dont waste your time. This does more harm than good and even if you do get a good ranking fast, it will fade soon enough. Any back link package is truly ridiculous and you are playing with fire. If you see any package that is offering you more than 100 links for less than $10, you should stay far far away. it also goes unmentioned you should stay away from ANY back link building schemes that include gaining mass amounts of backlinks in a short period of time. Links are votes and should be earned.

Cateva idei.

[100R]

6 Changes Every SEO Should Make BEFORE the Over-Optimization Penalty Hits - Whiteboard Friday

Pagina: http://www.seomoz.org/blog/6-changes...he-over-optimi

Direct video: http://fast.wistia.com/embed/iframe/827a20e34e