Tentativa de frauda: beware

[Ciprian Sorlea]

La sugestiile unui prieten, am scos domenii-internet.com la vanzare si pe sedo.com. In mai putin de 3 zile, uite ce am primit:

-----Original Message-----
From: UTS Technologies [mailto:ceo@utepils.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 11:30 AM
To: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.ro
Subject: domenii-internet.com (sent 05/24/07)


Hello,

I've found your domain listed for sale.

Just send an email with your asking price in Euro or USD for the domain name.

Domain market is so hot now. Have you heard about recent multi-million dollars sales?

Our company develops software for a large corporation. Domain names is not our business but a new way to earn on reselling. We are going to buy domains to resell them at higher prices. Our company has a large database of clients interested in good domains.

If you offer more domains for sale with good reselling potential please email us your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
John Champoux, Ph. D.
CEO
UTS Technologies

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Ca raspuns, i-am trimis o lista de domenii pe care le-as vinde. Si uite care a fost raspunsul lui:

From: Champoux [mailto:ceo@utepils.com]
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 12:37 AM
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Subject: Re: domenii-internet.com (sent 05/24/07)

Looks like domain market is hot now. Porn.om sold recently for $9,000,000!
http://www.901am.com/2007/porncom-sold-for-9m.html

Let's talk about our deal now.

Can you accept 20,000 USD for
www.domenii-internet.com
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Do you sell the name only without web site? I'm interested in the name so
web site is not so important.

Do you have an appraisal certificates for your domain names? As fas I know
it's a common practice to show appraisal of domain name (even without
traffic and web site) before doing business.

Without appraisal I risk to overpay. In other words I won't be able to make
a profit on reselling this name. It's very important for you and me to know
the current market value of your domains.


Of course, we must be sure that you are engaging an appraisal company with
REAL manual service. I heard many appraisal companies often made inaccurate
auto-generated appraisals. I will only accept appraisals from independent
sources I trust. To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable
appraisal companies in a forum
http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/417295.htm

Just check this posting.

If the appraisal comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly.
I also hope you can give me 10% - 15% discount of the appraised value.

After I get an appraisal from you we'll continue our negotiations.

How do you prefer to get paid: www.escrow.com, www.PayPal.com check or
wire?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

Well, aici mi-a dat de gandit. La o simpla cautare
am dat de urmatoarul thread.

Voi ati avut de a face cu scammerul asta?

[Nic]

E cunoscuta faza demult si numai un incepator ar putea sa se pacaleasca.
Daca nu te prinzi dupa primul email, dupa al doilea devine chiar evident ce vrea tipul.

[Ciprian Sorlea]

Faza e ca am mai avut niste discutii cu niste persoane, tot pe email, care insa au fost mult mai realiste, au oferit o suma, le-am zis ca nu-mi convine si au ales sa renunte. Asta nu era pentru domenii-internet.com ci pentru alt domeniu.

Pot sa zic ca Google m-a ajutat sa ma prind, prin prisma operatorului site:

Intr-adevar, numai un incepator s-ar putea pacalii, insa hai sa fim realisti: exista foarte multi incepatori, deci o gramada de potentiale victime. De aceea am si initiat thread-ul.

[undoweb]

Acest email l-am primit si eu fix dupa 1 zi de la ce am adaugat domeniul pe site.
Emailul vinea de la director@utepils.com.
Explicati care e faza, ca eu nu m-am prins.

[Ciprian Sorlea]

Omul se ofera sa cumpere domeniul de la tine, dar iti spune ca va lua in considerare doar o evaluare terta manuala, nu automata.... si iti recomanda 2-3 astfel de servicii de evaluare, care sunt niste scame.... sunt ale lui si mai mult ca sigur ca apeland la acele servicii arunci banii pe fereastra.