Voi ati mai cumpara un domeniu format din 2 keyword-uri f bune, separate cu cratima, chiar daca cineva a luat varianta cu ele legate dar nu a dezvoltat nimic inca?
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Voi ati mai cumpara un domeniu format din 2 keyword-uri f bune, separate cu cratima, chiar daca cineva a luat varianta cu ele legate dar nu a dezvoltat nimic inca?
Eu aleg varianta cuvintelor despartite intotdeauna pentru ca pur si simplu mi se pare mai natural sa zicem frunza-verde decat frunzaverde... dar cred ca asta nu e suficient pentru un site ci e doar un prim pas in optimizare.
De curiozitate am cautat cu Google centrale termice, domeniul cu cratima a aparut imediat pr prima pagina de rezultate, domeniul unit insa n-a aparut pe prima pagina desi exista. Abia cautarea dupa centraletermice a afisat domeniul legat dar abia pe a III-a pozitie...
Poate ca pare o subpozitie fara suport dar fiecare din cei interesati pot trage o concluzie...
concurenta e acerba oricum in domeniu: 41 de mil rezultate.
daca iti place domeniul asa mult (mie nu-mi plac cele cu cratima), primul lucru pe care trebuie sa-l faci este sa-l cumperi. apoi scrie-le celor care au celalalt domeniu poate vor sa-l vinda. nu le spune ca il ai si pe asta, spune-le doar ca ai o idee, vrei sa faci un site...
daca nu vor sa-l dea sau nu-ti convine pretul faci siteul pe cel cu cratima. poate nu va avea succes... macar ti-ai pus ideea in practica. daca vei avea succes poate vei avea bani sa oferi ceva mai mult pe celalalt si sa-l cumperi
daca nu-l vei lua vor avea parte de putin trafic de la tine insa vizitatorii isi vor da seama ca nu au revenit unde trebuie si vor scrie si cu cratima... in final vor ajunge unde trebuie. in cel mai rau caz il vei redirecta catre un alt domeniu...
oricum eu unul as lua un domeniu care-mi place si pe parcurs as vedea ce trebuie sa fac.
Am dat comanda de domeniu deja. Ar trebui sa fii ticnit sa vinzi un domeniu de genul ala pe bani putini, chiar daca nu e com ci eu. Maine o sa va dau toate detaliile dar e ceva e in genul weight-loss/weightloss
nu stiu de ce dar aveam impresia ca este vorba de un domeniu .ro. oricum bine ca l-ai luat :)
E vorba de food-recipes.eu
Felicitari pentru domeniu... eu pariez pe tine si pe faptul ca vei avea succes cu acest domeniu comparativ cu cel fara cratima...
mie imi plac domeniile cu cratima ! iar daca te ocupi la fel ca cele fara cratima dar doua cuv. poti avea acelasi rezultate...
Eu cred ca sunt evident mai usor de retinut (mai ales de citit!) url-urile cu cratima, atat timp ca e vorba de 2-3 cuvinte. nuntiboteruzi .ro vs. nunti-botezuri . ro ...Sare in ochi.
Dpdv SEO, nuntibotezuri nu este vazut ca si un cuvant?
Apropos oarecum de asta, Matt Cutts vb. despre Dashes vs. underscores ; de citit si Vanessa Fox on Organic Site Review session, in care spune:
Am facut cu ceva timp un urma un mini-test cu 2 domenii diferite, unul cu cratima (2 cuvinte), celalalt impreunat; cel cu cratima este cu 20 de pozitii mai sus decat cel cu cuvintele legate. ;)Citat:
african-elephants.html is seen as two words: “African” and “elephants”. african_elephants is seen as one word: african_elephant. It’s doubtful many people will be searching for that
Underscores are now word separators, proclaims Google
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One key development that Matt shared with the audience was that underscores in URLs are now (or at least very soon to be) treated as word separators by Google. That's great news, because it historically hasn't been that way. Back in 2005, Matt stated that Google did not view underscores in URLs as word separators. That meant that in a URL like http://www.mysite.com/iphone_review.html Googlebot couldn't "see" the words iphone or review. Instead it read iphone_review as one word. I wouldn't recommend targeting "iphone_review" as a keyword, as I doubt anyone will be including an underscore in their Google query.
So it used to be--until now--that any benefit that you would have gotten by having a keyword-rich URL was negated by the use of underscores separating those words. TypePad and Movable Type blogs were particularly affected by this, as by default, underscores were used instead of hyphens. This new change in the Google algorithm should make bloggers using the TypePad service or the Movable Type blog software (and anyone else using underscores in their URLs) very happy, as I anticipate their Google traffic will be going up.
:goth: astia/asta se joaca cu focul...Citat:
A few other highlights from Matt's talk that you may find interesting:
* Matt claims that Google treats URLs with a query string the same as static URLs. Caveat: as long as there are no more than two or three parameters in the URL, that is! Put another way, you won't take a hit in your Google rankings if you have a question mark in your URL; just don't have more than two or three equals signs in the URL.
* Matt stated that the number of slashes in your URL (i.e. the number of directories deep your page is) isn't a factor in your Google rankings. He went on to say that although it doesn't matter for Google, it is rumored to matter for Yahoo and MSN (Live Search). Matt addressed this because I specifically asked the question from the audience.
* According to Matt, the file extension in your URL won't affect your rankings. So it's inconsequential whether you use .php, .html, .htm, .asp, .aspx, .jsp etc. The one extension you should avoid for your Web documents? .exe.
* Matt stated it was myth that Google uses its status as a domain registrar to access domain registration data to use it as a ranking signal. According to Matt, being a registrar doesn't grant one special access to other registrars' customer data. Note that Matt didn't state whether Google is or isn't using WHOIS data as a signal. I believe they are.
* When asked about how to get one's blog into Google News, Matt shared one of Google's requirements for inclusion: the blog must have multiple authors. So those of you wanting your blog showing up in Google News results, I hope it's a group blog!
Si eu cred ca cel cu cratima e mai usor de optimizat (mai usor de citit)...in general cand am luat domenii am cumparat si cu cratima si fara, dar site-ul l-am pus online pe cel cu cratima iar celalalt redirect permanent.
Nu am facut un test cum zicea cineva mai sus sa vad care e mai usor de optimizat, dar pana la urma nu conteaza prea mult domeniul vis-a-vis de cuvantul pentru care optimizezi....
In schimb daca vrei sa faci reclama la un post de radio de exemplu, chiar am auzit o reclama in care spunea www.site "liniuta" masini.ro (exact asa spunea) ,deja suna aiurea, mult mai bine se auzea daca era un domeniu fara cratima....
dragoserv, chestia asta cu dashes vs. underscores se refera la forma link-urilor interioare.
Nu la numele de domeniu.
Intr-un nume de domeniu nu poti pune: stiu_seo_si_sint_tare.com , ci doar nu-am-inteles-nimic-din-ce-scrie.comCitat:
That meant that in a URL like http://www.mysite.com/iphone_review.html Googlebot couldn't "see" the words iphone or review. Instead it read iphone_review as one word. I wouldn't recommend targeting "iphone_review" as a keyword, as I doubt anyone will be including an underscore in their Google query.
Pana acum se recomanda forma nu-am.com/dar-stiu-seo, dar acum e ok si cea de forma nu-am.com/dar_bat_campii.
Capisci? :pray:
Krumel, eu m-am referit strict la domeniu nu la link-uri interioare.....
Ce ai spus tu stiam, numai ca link-urile din cate am auzit daca sunt cu underline nu sunt vazute asa bine ca cele cu underscore.....nu stiu exact, dar eu asa am la toate site-urile, site.ro/site-ul-meu
Pai, articolul nu se referea la lucrul asta.
Dar, in fine...ai dreptate.